BaBarus

Giving a chance to other player to get rst. ----> the attribute reset resource is available ingame beside mall. Not just 1, but 6 pcs of attribute reset per month beside mall. this a chance for strong player. comparing to gm booth, how many attribute rst gm sell per month?

Only strong player could got it.-----> after rsting all his character, he will sell it to other player. if the price is too high, no one will buy. What for he keep so many rst for him/she? Lastly he will sell it cheaper and cheaper until got someone willing to buy it. this is the chance for other weaker player to get it.

soon when arena 100 with btr reward pop out, they will jump to arena 100. now the other weaker team turn to rules. this the way, step by step become stronger.

ShuQi

You said you need x5 resets for complete you char didn't you??? Keep for what??? Do you count in his alts??? And 6 pcs per month but you try void saying just 2 pcs for each char if only one winner team. So what's the reason if any team can win must stop farm it for their alts??? The greed of human is never limited. The next question is how long until the next chance for weaker players like you said??? Or they must give up if GM again remove rewards. And the winner team will be so strong and keep farm better rewards at arena level100 like you suggestion.
lol thank god you stop debate your imaged stories.

BaBarus

i don't need any of them, i already bought it from mall and keep in my ware just waiting to have enough rp. It's up to you if you don't want others to be strong.

It's not my problem anymore, have or no have reward also not my business.

uchiha_maximus

ShuQi doesn't want to be strong and he also doesn't want others to be strong. Crab mentality.

ShuQi

I think I'm strong enough. I don't need to be the strongest, the top, the best or the perfect.
And I don't against others want to be stronger and better. But I dislike someone always ask for free, ask like beggaring, always want but don't want to give or pay. You want to be better just work harder and pay more that's all.

uchiha_maximus

"I think I'm strong enough."
- For your level, you ain't.

"But I dislike someone always ask for free, ask like beggaring, always want but don't want to give or pay..."
- Are you trying to imply that I don't PAY? OMFG. Are you also trying to say Babarus doesn't pay? HAHAHAHAHA! We're not suggesting these for our own benefit, we're making these suggestion to see if it would make the game better for general public. What have you suggested to further improve this game? All I hear from you is blah blah blah complain blah blah blah complain blah blah blah complain.

ShuQi

For my level and as a tanker healer type I think I'm good enough. Again I'm not so crazy in looking for perfect power.
Me and we all know you and him have been paying lots. And we all thank you coz of players like you MMOG exist and growing. I also understand purpose of your suggestion. But in other side I also see the weakness of it and I disagree with it. You call it "complain" but I call "comments". If you dislike it just pm to GM and never must see any "comments"/"complain" with your idea. Don't take your idea to public then look forward everyone must support it well. I  know most of players will be in your side coz it's also their benefit. But also there's a few in other side disagree with it. Like a coin always has 2 faces. Any side they are, most of them are so shy or affair to talk their though. But I'm not. Some I agree some I disagree but I always say my though honestly .

kenemaru

Yes the coin thing, now where did I heard that before, you do have a point though shuqi about pming their ideas to the gm. Thier ideas might be to much that it could lead to the games downfall but its just a suggestion. Then again, the coin has two faces. Shuqi the way i see it your like this kid in playground. Everyone want to play Tag but you want to play hide and seek since everyone agree to play tag you didn't join instead due to disappointment you throw stones at them to ruin their game and fun. Did you get my point?

uchiha_maximus

So far, all I'm hearing are your complaints... I mean comments that are against our suggestion. 2v1 is kind of a losing odds in the "other side of the coin" you're referring to.

ShuQi

You call that's "losing". Umh then your suggestions of you two are so good so perfect to lure players join ZO???? Then GM or Ingle must do that fast to increase number of players.Believe me they are very smart and have high experience in enveloping a MMOG. They know what's good for their product now. But in fact they won't do as your suggestions. Why??? Coz your are so weak and aren't good ideas.
No one here is winning or losing guys. It's just about how many agree and disagree, about possible or impossible, about good idea or bad idea. Your suggestions are agreed by most players, that's thing I already agree. But they are so weak and bad ideas.
Like that now some player suggest for new lines, new server. Those are just suggestions too. But they are weak and bad ideas too. We call it suggestion and let it be??? No we disagree it and we replied. Not coz of someone disagree with you then you call them "complainer" or "losing". Fist you should think more careful then post it to public. Then you must defend its weakness font of others's comments and convince them not fight with them that it's perfect. If you can't do that your suggestions are still too weak and bad. I used to do that at University and depend my project font of lot of teachers.

uchiha_maximus

Well, if they know what they're doing as you have said, I think they should know that they should put more useful stuff on discount in the mall to entice plat buyers to buy plats to make eq, upgrade pet, or reset. But month in, month out, they put less-useful stuff there. Who would buy elemental stones on discount? lol

"Coz your are so weak and aren't good ideas"
- You know who suggested the Plantain Fan reward? You know who suggested the gem exchange mechanism? I believe the Plantain Fan reward generated them some nifty donations with 6 (if my count is right) or more people who claimed for it. The gems exchange was also another nifty scheme to make some people buy plats.

"Like that now some player suggest for new lines, new server. Those are just suggestions too. But they are weak and bad ideas too. We call it suggestion and let it be??? No we disagree it and we replied. Not coz of someone disagree with you then you call them "complainer" or "losing"."
- So now you're comparing my suggestion to that made by a newbie? WTF? Just cause you're older than me in this game by a few months you think that way already? You really like to underestimate people huh? Or it's just in your nature to provoke people regardless of how pointless your argument is? If my suggestion has not be thoroughly been thought of, then I could have just suggested, hey add lots of free stuff like Pet Skillbook L, Gimlets, Angelic Packs (1,2,3), mounts etc etc etc. Clearly your brain cells are so fried your logic has deminished over the years of playing in front of the PC.

Mr. Kier's appeal for a new server was clearly shut down by more than 1 player. And yet, I still only see YOU in my posts or Baba's post pointing out useless (baseless) facts that cannot even be classified as constructive criticism but more of whining and complaining.

ShuQi

You see only me in you two post right??? Then where are others who agree with you then??? And You also forget kenemaru who also join here and support you.
Uhm if someone suggested about fan with options or gem exchange mechanism I think it's good idea to lure casher pay much more. But the gem exchange mechanism gets a bit problem. But they are still not bad idea. Again some I agree some I disagree and I always have right to reply/complain/comment if your posts are on public.
As your idea coz they are newbie they wouldn't suggest or their suggestions are worse than your??? lol maybe you are older than them and know about ZO better but they all have right to suggest like you. Maybe most of their suggestion are bad but some of their suggestions even are better than your. Any case you can join in and say your comment about them. You've been changing lots since you got Eve account, I wonder do you know that???

uchiha_maximus

"You see only me in you two post right??? Then where are others who agree with you then??? And You also forget kenemaru who also join here and support you."
- Where are the others who agree with me? You just said it in the same quote. Genius. Speaking of people agreeing with you, I haven't seen any lately, not even in World Chat. The moment you make an argument in World Chat, 90% of the people talking DO NOT agree with you. 10% just don't bother commenting cause waste of time.

"As your idea coz they are newbie they wouldn't suggest or their suggestions are worse than your???"
- You said it, not me. I didn't say they didn't have the right to make a suggestion. What I was saying is their suggestion might not be as clearly thought of than mine.

"Maybe most of their suggestion are bad but some of their suggestions even are better than your."
- Really? Name 3?

"You've been changing lots since you got Eve account, I wonder do you know that???"
- You just didn't know me BEFORE that. But I can assure you, nothing changed about me.

ShuQi

And in world chat is there any agree with you two???? Or they don't bother both of sides??? Maybe this's just chat between me and you who've gone so far.
You said you didn't but then you ask name who suggested better than your. Does it mean you agree that you mean their suggestions worse than your??? So then my comment about you weren't wrong, were it???
Don't worry you were in my interesting and my targets not like kenemaru who I didn't know. That's why I knew some info about you. You maybe can't recognize your changing but others can see and know it clearly.

uchiha_maximus

"And in world chat is there any agree with you two???? Or they don't bother both of sides??? Maybe this's just chat between me and you who've gone so far."
- Don't twist my words smarty pants. I said nobody agrees with you whenever you enter an argument. Which means your point of view is not what the "other side of the coin" thinks as what you have proclaimed a few posts ago.

"You said you didn't but then you ask name who suggested better than your."
- HUH?

"Does it mean you agree that you mean their suggestions worse than your??? So then my comment about you weren't wrong, were it???"
- Agree on what? That their suggestions are worse than me? Well, some of them are and some are good. But why cannot you tell me 3 other suggestions that were better than mine? Is it because you can't think of any and just like to say my suggestion sucks? Geez. At least back it up with your balls if you wanna claim something ain't good.

"That's why I knew some info about you. You maybe can't recognize your changing but others can see and know it clearly."
- Oh, I know I changed. I got more powerful and can beat the crap out of you. Clearly your info is not enough. If you haven't seen my debates with Jason before, this is NOTHING compared to that. At least Jason made smarter comebacks than you ever did and will.